Saturday, 16 March 2013

2013 ENGLISH QUEEN CORONATION COMMEMORATION 2013 SO WHAT WILL 'WELSH REPUBLICANS' DO ABOUT IT OH NO NOT ANOTHER CBRD POEMS AND PINTS POINTLESSNESS?



Oct 1, 2011 – 13 Feb 2007 – Welsh Republican Movement 1946 – 1956: Time Line. ... 19th October 1952: Bomb attack on the Fron Aqueduct in Central ...

Sure it will go on winning as long as Welsh Nationalists are confused as to what makes 'Republicanism' and what does not. Today only two people fit the bill as to teaching a proper and useful form of 'Welsh Republicanism' that is David Lawrence of Republican Forum:


and Nicklas Jones:

Welsh Socialist Republican Party - Democracy and Class Struggle

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 The Welsh Socialist Republicans believes the only class in Waleswhich is capable of leading Wales to the new democracy of autonomous self ...

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Whatever else exists as the Leanne and Bethan Supported 'Guardian Brit Republicanism' is a total waste of Space and distraction which I think is as 'My Little Republic' (sadly, as that was pretty good) is now defunct:
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Welsh football chiefs said today that they remain opposed to any of their country's players representing Britain/England at the London 2012 Olympics. At present ...

Then there is this, near to what we want but is it for real or more'WECTU WEEVIL' work, so take care about contacting:

Welsh republicans homepage | Gwefan Gweriniaethol Cymru - Webs

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Republican expression · Guest book · The Forum · welsh-republican@hotmail.co.uk... Many claim that a nation such as Wales is too small to govern itself.

Since end of WWI contemporary Welsh Republicanism was born in form of the Cliff Bere WRM I, following which there came into existence the WRM II of Neil ap Siencyn and Gareth ap Sion (pity he's not done a Wikiapedia history  at least). Not a bad attempt but kind of much like the later  Cyfamodwyr labouring under the weight of 'Language' based Cultural Nationalism. More or less as the crap Cymru Rydd and existing Balchder Cymru let their so called 'Republicanism' be of the Super Patriot Crachach Newydd Camp Following kind. So not fitfor any true new Welsh Republican Movement III purpose.Possibly best later 'Welsh Republicanism' came in form ofWSRM:

Welsh Socialist Republican Movement - Wikipedia, the free ...

The Welsh Socialist Republican Movement (Mudiad Socialaidd ... in the late 1980s to create Cymru Goch (Red Wales), a small socialist political party that lasted ...

However, what militates against there ever coming into existence a possibly much needed WRM III is the hostility of the Anglo - Cambro British Left and the pathetic lack of any real Political Education of the both main stream Welsh Nationalism and the Patriotic Fringe both of whom cannot escape flirting with CyIG/Cymuned, Green Peace and Cymdeithas y Cymoed/CND Pacifism and all that. All of which along, I am afraid the infatuation with commemorating Medieval Welsh History pre Glyndwr has got to go, leave it for Schools and Tourism and instead start to commemorate peoples History not that of Princes. It will be an hard break but if you want to see a WRM III and a Welsh Republican Struggle then that is what it will take, a break with the past and I mean the recent past too. However, this does not mean you sit around chewing the fat in fb Slumber Land as Play Station Patriots but more so get into action as protests and campaigns as it is only via such a path will a new 'Welsh Republicanism' be born and thus during 2013 seek to advance Welsh Republican Struggle against any Celebrations of the 1953 English Crown Coronation and not least if you read the below you will see that Caernarfon and Eisteddfod will be good places at which to promote Republican activity. But, I also suggest this summer please instead of another useless CBRD get out on to the English Crown Estates, as many as possible in a Give This Land Back Campaign and rise upon such the Welsh Republican Flag, can you do that are you capable of that much at least. If not surrender to English Rule and join a band or just keep on Tramp! Tramp! Tramping:

Cofio Tryweryn Rally 1963 - 2013 - YouTube

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Whatever, there is no quick fix and jumping into a 'Welsh Republicanism' and as Cymru Rydd Crap, or what BC from time to time refers to as their 'Nationalist Republicanism' or worse what ever CBRD is attempting for sure far from being sincere about a 'Welsh Republicanism. No! No! No! there must be Political Education on the roots of Radical Republicanism abroad and at home. I know I take a pot at BC often enough but that is due to their lack of action for a group that loves to remember so much the 'Adfywiad Gwladgarol' of the 'Sixties' but do not really want to relive it, do they? However, BC does come up with some good stuff now and then as the Frongoch Rally to commemorate the imprisoning of Irish Republican Prisoners there post 1916, making of it a 'College of Revolution'. This suggests to me the idea of making this commemoration something more than an excuse for more 'Tramping' but why not our own long weekend as a 'Revolutionary College' to carry out such a political  education and training to prepare Patriots to advance establishment of a WRM III and a true Radical Welsh Republican Struggle. Other than that begin travelling to sites in Wales associated with the roots of Welsh Republicanism as Garreg Wasted, Maenclychog, Llangadfan, Llangeinor and not least sites connected with Iolo Morgannwg in Wales and at Primrose Hill, London. You will note we Partisan Cymru 'Red Republicans' have already made a start, why not join in and not least consider what you going to re the below?

WALES GREETS THE QUEEN aka QUEEN OPENS CLAERWEN DAM


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Elizabeth II opens dam in Wales that will serve Birmingham.

London: Warne. p. 66. ^ "The Queen At Eisteddfod: Visit To Wales Concluded, Caernarvon Castle Ceremony". The Times (London) (52671): p. 6. 1953-07-11.

Queen In Wales - Search Results - British Pathé


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Queen In Wales - Search Results - British Pathé

Cuts for newsreel 46/59 - King and Queen visit Wales. 57353 ... Selected Originals -Wales Welcomes The Queen (1953). Material Relating to newsreel story ...
Queen Elizabeth II is crowned at a coronation ceremony in Westminster Abbey in London.

50 facts about The Queen's Coronation

This year marks the 50th anniversary of Her Majesty The Queen's Coronation in June1953. Below is a list of 50 facts concerning the day itself, as well as some ...

 The Queen's Coronation 1953 | Royal Collection Trust

This summer marks the 60th anniversary of one of the most momentous occasions in 20th-century British history – the Coronation of Her Majesty Queen 

 The Queen's Coronation 1953 | Royal Collection Trust

Jan 22, 2013 – The Summer Opening of Buckingham Palace, 27 July – 29 September. This summer marks the 60th anniversary of the Coronation of Her ...

The Coronation of Queen Elizabeth II - YouTube

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Rare archive tv and film footage of the Coronation of Queen Elizabeth II in 1953 - a rare occasion when Parry ...

 CORONATION 1953 - British Pathé

JThe Coronation of Elizabeth II inside Westminster Abbey. A mixture of Colour and B & W.More videos for Coronation 1953 »

Coronation Weather, 1953 - weatheronline.co.uk

A very large woman wreathed in smiles and a rather small austere-looking man rode down the Mall in an open carriage. The Queen of.

1953 CORONATION PROCESSION - A LISTING

On Coronation Day there were, of course, two Processions: The first was TO Westminster Abbey for the Crowning, and the second was BACK FROM ...

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The Queen's coronation in Westminster Abbey, 2 June 1953. © Press Association. Official Coronation photograph of The Queen © Camera Press/Cecil Beaton ...

Tuesday, 12 March 2013

''CITIZEN'' JOHN THELWALL AND LLYSWEN FARM.



 I was hoping for this time was to find " Llyswen Farm " because this definite place name had turned up in something that I had read when checking my facts about Thelwall.
 
I was checking the facts about " Citizen " John Thelwall because I was using him as an example of how in the 1790's previously respectable republicans were portrayed as criminals.
 
John Thelwall was from a very respectable family from mid Wales, educated and an educator : a poet, writer, lecturer and public orator - and a radical who was tried for treason.
 
He was one of the people that Edward Williams was visiting in prison when he first signed his name " Iolo Morgannwg, Bard of Liberty " in the visitors' book and wrote a poem after.
We set out to find John Thelwall's " cottage " that has been described as his " hermitage " at " Llyswen Farm." We walked up to the house indicated by the local cafe owner across from the green and down the lane by the church - given that it stands opposite the church it appears to have been the old manor house and is called " Ty Mawr." Today it was a building site.
 
I had a chat with a man on the ground floor and he called his boss, perhaps his father, who came down and talked to me. He is from the area and knows about John Thelwall, and he told me that Lady Bingley ( - ?) had asked him to come out of retirement to do this job - he had been responsible for the previous renovation work done thirty years ago. He took me over to an internal wall where the floor boards are presently taken up and showed me that it stood on stone foundations and offered this opinion. Nobody seems to be sure of where John Thelwall's " cottage " stood if it was a cottage, except that this was quite a big farm with the tithe barn opposite the house showing the kind of range of buildings around the main house with some buildings now non-existent evident close by in mounds traceable in the fields / yards surrounding it. His opinion, having pulled the main house apart twice now, is that John Thelwall's " cottage " was in fact Ty Mawr and that this was pulled down in the middle of the 19th century and the stone used to back the red brickwork of the present mid Victorian house ( whose red brick gothicke I think has an early 1850's sort of style, but I do not know when the railway arrived in this area.)
 
He reckoned that the original house was very nearly the same size as the one that replaced it, but I could not discern whether he meant that the red brick is a veneer in some places over the original structure which is not unkown. When he refurbished the house thirty years ago he repaired some original doors and when I admired a gothicke looking door he told me that he had in fact made that one himself by nailing mouldings over the door to create a complimentary style - if he did he is clearly a fairly skilled carpenter. The drive has been redesigned with new serpentine walls from the gates which are newly built from rubble which apparently has either been taken from the recent demolition of this house or of some other building - he and I had a discussion about the limewash still adhering to some of the stones which he scraped off referring to it as " ochre " although it was not red, perhaps there are some buildings locally that are limewashed in a red colour ?
 
Naturally having worked in architecture I am a bit wary of bullshit by builders but he was certainly skilled and he was not talking about his own property so he had nothing to lose in offering me this opinion. What do you think ? Do you think that an older Ty Mawr - and the tithe barn might well be 15 th century - was John Thelwall's " hermitage " ? It seems a little too big to me if it was perhaps a church farm with this parish tithe barn next to it, and I understood it to be the case that John Thelwall withdrew from the London scene to seek safety in the hills as a shepherd until " The English Terror " had run its course - but of course it never did, we are still living with the consequences.
 
If you know otherwise and I am still barking up the wrong tree as to where John Thelwall retreated - do tell me !!!  Perhaps you know somebody in Cadw etc who knows ???
 
Regards,

David Lawrence.

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